We head out with Blue Wolf (A biometric detection and documentation system) with the goal: “Collect ten faces. Collect ten matches with Blue Wolf.”

What does that mean?Like Red Wolf, the computer system (a facial recognition system installed at checkpoints). Same thing [here]: you go around with this Galaxy [cell phone]. You grab the person, open the Blue Wolf app, “How are you, good morning, nice day, can I have an ID?,” enter the ID [into the computerized system]. “Can I take a photo of the ID?” Great, take a photo of his ID. Ask to take his photo in order to enter him into the database. Take his photo.

If he tells you, I’m not being photographed?That never happened to me. I assume they understand the situation.

What do they understand?They can’t say no.

That’s the situation.Yes. I don’t know if they understand why I’m taking his photo. But no one ever said no to me, and I didn’t hear of anyone resisting.

And who do you take photos of?Everyone you see. Of course in the end you, as a commander, are the deciding force. In the end I photographed the young guys, I didn’t go in to [photograph] the guy working at the store and not the old woman sitting outside her house.

You don’t photograph women?You don’t photograph women. But you do take their ID and photograph the ID.

What’s the goal there? You enter them into the military system. It’s easier both for us, and for them, instead of us doing the whole thing with the ID. What do I tell myself? I can’t sell all the lies that I sold the solders.

Why lies?The military doesn’t send you [there] to make their lives more pleasant, to allow them to pass through the checkpoint more easily. It’s not that the military has said, let’s make the Blue Wolf so they can pass through more easily. The military wants to enter the people into its system for control. So every name that pops up they can immediately enter it into like their databases. In the end, before an arrest, we would take the Blue Wolf, enter the ID [number] and the name, see his photo. Sometimes the military doesn’t have his name in the system, and on arrests you really understand the preoccupation with taking photos. If there’s no photo of him because he hasn’t gone through any checkpoints, in [front of] any cameras, then you don’t know who you’re looking for, it’s less convenient for you. It’s less convenient for the military.