In the perimeter, what are the orders?Adult, male — kill. Shoot to kill. For women and children, shoot to drive away, and if they come close to the fence, you stop [them]. You don't kill women, children, or the elderly. Shoot to drive away means a tank fires, takes 30 thousandths (moves the cannon at a slight angle from the target), and fires a [machine gun] volley at a concrete wall, so they hear something is going on and run away, to try to drive them away from the perimeter. There wasn't [a case] where a shell was fired 50 meters from a woman. Most of the time, the people who breach the perimeter are adult men. Children or women didn't enter this area. The reservists also always raised questions over whether this was communicated to them (the Palestinians): "Do they know such a thing exists?"

And what do you think the answer was?There wasn't really an answer to that.

Is there a marking on the ground they know about? No, no. Of course not. There's like, a geographical marking, because the thousand meter [line] can, for example, be on a ridge. But it's not like they (the Palestinians) were told: The ridge before the border is [the line]. I don't know. You say: "What kind of idiot would enter this area when they know it's a dead zone (kill zone) other than someone who apparently wants to die or is prepared to risk his life?"