Do you remember incidents from checkpoints or from the war-room that seemed wrong to you? Daily stuff that seemed wrong? Things that commanders did, catching kids, just shepherds, catching them, putting them in the jeep and driving around with them, just like that.

Do you remember a specific case? It’s a very specific story.

What happened there? We were on patrol. Like, something that I can show was a bad way of doing things. They caught a kid walking with his flock, put him in the jeep.

Where was that? Right in our section there, I don’t remember exactly. We were in the middle of nowhere, really.

Close to his village? No, not close to the village. They found, you know, a shepherd. These kids, poor kids. At that time they were building the Separation Fence and all that, they were on the other side. So as if in order to punish him, he took him into the jeep, started driving, and the kid is crying and all. Just a 12-year-old kid.

And where are the sheep? He just left them there? Left them there. We asked him, like: What? “Nothing, I want him to learn.” We started driving, drove and drove, the kid kept crying and all. Finally they let him off somewhere.

How far away? One kilometer.

Moved him there for no reason? Yes, for no reason.

To punish him? As if to punish him, so he wouldn’t go on with the flock beyond the fence, that at the time was just barbed wire, there was nothing.

Did he go back to his sheep? Yes, but he was really far away. I don’t know if, what, how he actually got back, where, I don't know if he even knew where he was. Just to hassle him.