In the talk you had with the commander, was the word ‘war’ used? The word ‘operation’ was used – ‘war’ was not – but I think something in the atmosphere, after that morning in Shuja’iyya for sure, projected war. In the way they told us, “There’s a house and we’ll go in first with the air force, and then with tank shelling, and then you guys go in ‘wet’ (with live fire).” In that situation it’s a bit hard to even consider it an operation. There was something that had ‘war’ written all over it – something really difficult, really serious. Did they discuss rules of engagement with you? What’s permitted and what’s forbidden? During training, in that respect, [they told us] that we only enter houses ‘wet,’ with grenades, and the more of them the better – and [grenade] launchers if you can use them. You’re going to ‘open’ a house? Don’t take any chances, use your grenade launcher, utilize every effective tool you’ve got. Aim, fire and only then go in. You don’t know if there is or isn’t someone in there. Go in ‘wet’ with grenades, with live fire. These were the orders for entering houses. How does one launch a grenade at a house? You move back to a distance that’s effective for a grenade launcher. I don’t know – it explodes from about *** meters, more or less. You walk a distance back, and lob it through the window, into the house. These were the scenarios for which we trained. We weren’t presented with scenarios of ‘terrorist, not terrorist.’ [We were told] “This is the house, first thing – aim.” Instructors from the GOC (Ground Arms Command) would tell us, “Aim your weapon, fire the grenade, and then after that enter the house ‘wet.’” And this is after the commander says, “To ‘open’ a house, we start with two tank shells, and then if it’s necessary we call in the air force.” They tell you, “There is aerial assistance up there at all times. If you need something, speak up. Just say the word.” Eager for battle, in a crazy way. Did they discuss [dealing with] uninvolved civilians with you? No one spoke about that at all. From their point of view, no one should be there at all. If there is [any Palestinian] there – they shouldn’t be. I think there was something very frightening, and also a bit paralyzing in the atmosphere. And I think that the feeling among [the soldiers] too, was that we really need to give it to them.