Ofer Ohana, I’m not sure what his role is. He's a medic, he has an ambulance and a weapon. He’s well known from the Azaria affair (an incident in which IDF soldier shot and killed a neutralized Palestinian stabber in Hebron), what he did there that generated the entire incident.

His presence is felt, he arrives somewhere and his present is felt, with his All-Terrain Vehicle. No doubt. One of the insights I had about Ofer Ohana was that a soldier would feel much more comfortable receiving an order from a person who pampers him with grilled cheese and slushies, who arrives at his post with Shawarma, than from his commander who hassles him and makes him run around, or asks him why he isn’t ready to be called-up. For that reason, when I saw the Elor Azaria footage and what Ofer Ohana was saying: "someone do something" – I realized that from Ofer Ohana’s point of view, that’s an order to be followed. And I don’t know what the relationship between Elor Azaria and Ofer Ohana is like, I can just imagine that if one of my soldiers was there… Like, Ofer is, ultimately, for soldiers who don’t see the full picture, Ofer is a warm pampering figure.

But is he also a professional authority? Professional authority? Maybe. Yes. Because Ofer Ohana gets there before everyone else. He’s physically there, physically already standing there. I don’t know much about the Civilian Security Coordinator’s organizational structure, or that of the civilian security officer. I don’t know how they're organized, [and] how he shows up. He probably has a two-way radio and is notified. He’s simply very much present at all incidents because he comes, takes photos, documents, and the fact is that the soldier sees him arrive before everyone else. Ofer Ohana can undoubtedly become an authoritative figure, and the means he chooses involve pampering, all sorts of stuff to eat.

Did you arrive there after the Azaria incident? We arrived there just a few weeks after Elor Azaria.

In this context, did anybody talk to you about it? Specifically about Ofer? because Ofer was really very involved there, as seen in the beginning of the footage. I wonder if anyone said anything to you when you arrived, like: this person is involved in an investigation, keep your distance. No, there were no directives. On the contrary, we never had any briefing about Ofer, whether to be or not to be [in touch].

Following the incident, were you ordered not to use the ‘Hot Corner’ (A free

cafeteria that serves food and beverages to soldiers, managed by Ofer Ohana)? Not at all, not at all. The only restriction at the ‘Hot Corner’ was that soldiers would go there inappropriately uniformed or without a weapon, stuff like that. It isn’t forbidden, it’s just there: "go have a slushie." It’s so natural. It’s very natural in everyone’s eyes to just go do it.

What’s natural? That the settlers offer you food? Sure.

When you were there, did you know what was happening with him in the

Azaria trial? Especially what he said about Azaria’s Battalion Commander and

company commander? I, specifically, knew because I follow it, but I don’t know if my soldiers knew. I imagine that they did see the footage. People know who Ofer Ohana is, some simply don’t think there’s a problem with him.

"know" in what sense? That he’s an extreme right-wing activist? No, they know that he’s a person who lives in Hebron, drives an ambulance, and pampers soldiers. He has the ‘Hot Corner,’ that’s what they know. As far as public image goes, that’s a great image, he’s got great PR.