Where were the commanders in this whole situation? Did you get to talk to a more senior command? With your company commanders?Our company commander, I don't know, he's a guy who didn't communicate with us too much, but he was too merciful to us. He was a tough guy, he came to us from the Duvdevan special force. He was tough on us, presumably he was tough on the Arabs. Even though he took care to respect them, there are rules, he's a company commander, there are rules, there is this, there is that. You can carry on sometimes, throw a stun grenade when it's not necessary, but it's all in the framework of "aggression" and allowed with discretion.
What do you mean a stun grenade?I don't know, I heard some story, I don't even remember. Listen, all in all, the commanders are a complex story. Excuse me: the situation is complex. Because it's true it's like that, on the other hand I was there because I knew it was forbidden for these guys, it's still forbidden for Jews to die. They don't deserve to die for this. With all the resentment, these Jews don't deserve to die for this. Even when five girls suddenly exit Bet Romenu onto the road, make a public celebration throwing stones, dancing, and yelling "Death to the Arabs" throwing stones. Really like some kind of Pagan ceremony. Return like nothing happened. Seriously.
And more senior commanders?Now, that is a complex story, and in this complex story, like, they talk about it, and they are attentive to you, and they are youth movement graduates and they are sensitive and like, listen, they conduct themselves in it. There is also a terrible feeling – at least we had a terrible feeling – that it's good we are there because we make it easier for the Palestinians. It's hard. On the one hand, you feel like a good teacher in a terrible school. Like it doesn't matter what, the system is screwing you and you are an idiot and you are making a pathetic and unreasonable attempt. On the onther hand, you feel on the day to day that you aren't fed up with them, because you are still a person and you are still smiling, that my leftovers, that I had from dinner, they brought me more than that, so I gave it to a really poor Palestinian boy. They already knew they could ask for bread from us because we were in Nahal.
They would ask for food? They would pass and, like, ask: May I?They were very poor, so there was like a feeling that it was important for us to be [there]. Again, I also mean it towards the checkpoints. It's important there should be the humane treatment. I know that it's not really, on the macro [level] it doesn't matter. On the micro, like, you know. So it's really complex. There is a bottom line, which apparently is why I'm talking to you, because there is a bottom line, but there is a lot of complexity.
Were you in a [live] fire incident in Hebron?No, not in Hebron. I was later in some incident, but it was just an explosive they triggered on us.
Is there something else you want to say about Hebron?Basically, there was resentment there that wasn't only ours. There was the group that enlisted in March. There is just this thing in the IDF, the soldiers always hate the settlers. The thing I told you about, the thing where we felt we were doing good – when we left there the paratroopers came. When the paratroopers arrived articles came in the newspapers, problems in Hebron, clashes in Hebron, like. they came and all hell broke loose. There is also this thing in the IDF, awakening the sector. The company commander puts up a flag, and on the same day throws some stun grenade, and all of a sudden they start patrolling the village and detaining people and checking them. It's like a thing.
Did you get to awaken the sector?Us specifically I don't think so. I don't think so. Our company commander wasn't a fiery guy. When we annoyed him he went all out, but he wasn't a fiery guy.
How long were you there?I was there, like, a month and a half.