When I saw what was going on in there it was quite a shock because really an enormous amount of artillery was fired there – not only [bombs fired from jets], and for me personally that was hard. We lost several soldiers there (the testifier is referring to the incident in which seven soldiers were killed when a rocket hit their APC). On the one hand there was that, and on the other hand there was a feeling of craziness in how much fire was used [in the aftermath of the event] – and once it was over we continued fighting ‘normally.’ The lack of proportionality between the before and after – some would say that it’s understandable, but my feeling was that even while you’re fighting you can’t lose your sense of proportion. In order to evacuate the guys who were left they created a smokescreen to keep hostile combatants away from in the area. Lots of innocent people were hurt in that incident, lots. Sometimes, like in that case, you don’t really have time to double-check [that the civilian population had evacuated], and despite the fact that in this incident I think a warning did go out to the civilians to leave the neighborhood – there were people there. I can’t tell you if we knew there were people there, but factually, there were.