Did you ever happen to fire preventive fire even at occupied houses?Yes, there's one case. there was one case a week or two, I think, after the murder of Shalhevet Pass (a ten-month-old baby-girl who was killed by a Palestinian sharpshooter in March 2001). I wasn't there at the post, but they told me about a response of one of the Beinishim [nickname for Hesder Yeshiva students who serve for 14 months] in Netzarim following some sporadic shooting. When I say sporadic shooting, I mean something that is not accurate. I mean that terrorists come and shoot a burst and leave, do not identify and even if they do. . . they come, say we're here to play this game: you'll fire at us we'll fire at you, we'll understand that both of us are here and that's that. Of course it's not a game but this is more or less the sporadic shooting I'm talking about. Usually it's something done by an automatic weapon. It's not so frightening. It's not pleasant, but it's not a sharpshooter's fire that you identify as pinpointed and usually hear the ricochets flying. This here is something where the hit is not identified, something inaccurate. So in this case, again, there was sporadic shooting. The regulations are that the posts fire at suspicious points, that is, stop-butts, nothing to do with a populated thing; the orders are quite clear about this, you don't touch any populated thing, there's no justification nor reason to do so. Following this, a yeshiva guy . . . he fired deliberately at a neighborhood located north of Netzarim. I forget its name. But he did fire, while yelling, "This is revenge for the murder of Shalhevet Pass." There had been some sporadic shooting and he returned fire. I mean by a machine gun, not personal weapons.

Did you hear of any damage or something following this shooting?We didn't hear of any damage. I estimate there was some. Up to now I don't know of any casualties, dead or injured.

Was there a briefing about this? Anybody talk about it? I think it was hushed up by his friends, and then it was not relevant any longer. It was not brought to anybody's knowledge. His friends in the platoon hushed it up, at least those who knew, and not everybody knew. I remember some of them said to me that they felt like shit about it, that they talked to him and were angry with him, and warned him that if he dared do such a thing again they would report him. I also remember that this was like a week before leaving the deployment so they said . . .

About when did it happen?. . . I don't know . . . I can't say exactly when it was but it was about a month after Shalhevet Pass was killed. That was the trigger. And then in fact we left Netzarim.