I wasn’t taught during basic training and advanced training how to treat civilians. We were taught where to shoot and stuff like that, and “one skip, two skips,” (target conquest exercise), all that stuff, entering houses, but operationally, like in terms of now you’re in Lebanon or in Gaza. But not how you prevent a riot...

And what happens in reality?You have like these two days where they teach you how to throw a stun grenade when you arrive.

What do you think about this gap between what you learn as a soldier in basic training and during advanced training compared to what you did in the day-to-day?You learn how to fight in a war, and in practice the work you do is something you’d imagine a police officer does, arresting a person, checking [their] ID card, large protests. But you’re in uniform and you’ve learned how to fight a very clear enemy, he has a weapon, a helmet and stuff like that, and now you’re dealing with an enemy that’s imaginary. You go into it with this gung-ho attitude of someone who’s finished advanced training, and then you have to guard a checkpoint, when throughout your whole training no one talked about checkpoints at all.