Who gives the order to close a road? It could be the lowest-ranking sergeant. He takes you . . . a few times you can just go ahead, they take you out in the morning, you go around all the roads. Everything is open . . . Wherever there’s a closed road, there’s a mound of dirt. Is that what you do more or less? You put up a mound of dirt? A mound of dirt. If there’s stones nearby, then stones. If there’s a wrecked car, you use the car. Do you ever open a closed area? Yeah, usually before the army’s going in, and then you go where the place is closed off with concrete blocks. They’re relatively easy to move. The concrete blocks are easier to move? Yes. It’s easy for us. I once destroyed . . . because of a mistake in the order, I once destroyed an IDF checkpoint of concrete blocks. It’s simple. I just pushed away at least twenty blocks with the bulldozer—didn’t feel a thing. I just kept moving forward. Does the Border Police officer give the order to set up a blockade? Yes. He actually tells you, “Block this road, it’s disrupting my checkpoint”? Yeah, he’d say something like that, but he gets the order from higher up. He’s the one who tells me just because he’s part of the force on guard. That time I had an NCO working with me, either he was an officer or a pretty senior NCO in that area. He really enjoyed the whole thing. After the first blockade with the bulldozer he’d go up on the hoe and ride with me, which is supposed to be forbidden. What do you mean? You mean, why? Yes. Because he just liked to do it. What? Ride on the hoe? When you’d move the dirt mounds? No, no. When I’d go from blockade to blockade he’d ride on the hoe instead of riding in his own jeep.