What do you mean by notorious? There were stories that the conditions there are terrible, that detainees came out of there, or they suddenly called a doctor because the detainee complained and was throwing up all the time, so he arrived, the doctor arrived and saw that the detainee had been beaten up. Where did it come from? Because he’d examined him before the detention, so it’s new, it’s while he’s in detention. And these things were whitewashed like that.
Stories like that, how do you know? From the doctor who went and examined, he told me.
Can you isolate an incident like that? You’re sitting in the regional brigade, the doctor gets a call from the detention center. He travels with the battalion aid station, get’s there, comes back. After an hour or two, forms, bureaucracy, nonsense. Then we sit together and he says: Yeah, I don’t know, there was some detainee, they told me he’d been beaten up beforehand, but I’m not sure, I examined him, maybe I didn’t examine him correctly but it didn’t seem [right] to me, they did this to him, here they did this.
Isn’t a complaint made to someone? I don’t remember a single case where a complaint was made to someone, or that it was even seen as something unusual.
A doctor being called to the detention center, was that an unusual thing or routine? Routine.